Forum:No NC-17?

What's up with the no NC-17 movies rule? That's going to severely limit the ability to talk about several important movies, please see: for a list. Movies that were rated NC-17, were not subsequently cut to get an R-rating, and are "important" by various criteria may include:


 * A Dirty Shame (John Waters)
 * Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (directed by Russ Meyer, written in part by film critic Roger Ebert)
 * The Evil Dead (Sam Raimi, very influential horror movie)
 * La Grande Bouffe
 * Happiness (Todd Solondz)
 * Henry and June (Philip Kaufman)
 * In the Realm of the Senses (Nagisa Oshima)
 * Kids (Larry Clark)
 * Man Bites Dog (Remy Belvaux)
 * Matador (Pedro Almodovar)
 * Santa Sangre (Alejandro Jodorowsky)
 * Showgirls (Paul Verhoeven, notable for the impact it has on his carreer)
 * This Film is Not Yet Rated (Kirby Dick, documentary about the MPAA rating system, given an NC-17 by the MPAA, and an excellent example of why using MPAA ratings as a guide to what's "appropriate" is not a good idea)
 * Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! (Pedro Almodovar)

In addition, there are many, many movies that have at some point been rated X or NC-17, including classics like The Wild Bunch. Using American MPAA ratings, given by the studio system through a non-transparent process, as a criterion for inclusion seems short-sighted, especially given that many of the movies mentioned have not at all been received as harshly in other countries (Europe especially).

Joakim Ziegler 23:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)